tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-552664232133558163.post7431912353539365252..comments2023-07-12T02:16:53.467-07:00Comments on Defenders of Calth: So...have we been doing it all wrong?...still pondering...Minghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497228965588834972noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-552664232133558163.post-35224459075300865662015-05-21T08:41:55.798-07:002015-05-21T08:41:55.798-07:00I don't understand. Formations are defined in ...I don't understand. Formations are defined in the BRB as "Formations are a special type of Detachment, each a specific grouping of units renowned for their effectiveness on the battlefields of the 41st Millennium."<br /><br />You can't use the units selected to form a Formation as part of a CAD, AD, or other formation. <br /><br />The Decurion from the Necron codex is a bunch of Formations that unlock specific rules when taken in fixed combinations. You can take nothing but a single formation from within the Decurion as many times as you like without taking the prerequisite formations, you'll just not gain any of the Decurion bonuses. <br /><br />TheRhinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13199708616977903957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-552664232133558163.post-59554762566394856692015-05-20T12:48:02.524-07:002015-05-20T12:48:02.524-07:00LOL, but that what is happening in the new Necron ...LOL, but that what is happening in the new Necron and Eldar Detachments right now! Formations occur singly within them. And that is what I'm surmising. <br /><br />The original Detachment was the basic Force Org Chart, and the Apocalypse variants Force Org Charts, and the Cities of Death Force Org Charts. Now we have basic 7th Edition Detachments, <br /><br />The original Formations were found in Apocalypse. <br /><br />There is no real definition of what is a Formation vs a Detachment - but we are starting to see Formations fit inside Detachments. <br /><br />Overall, I bet this experiment on unit organization will eventually get clarified further in 8th Edition....<br /><br />I'd expect that at some point, you may see an event that tells all players that you can have one primary detachment and one allied detachment - but they can place inside those detachments units organized into formations so long as the detachment requirements are not broken, and units do not fall into more than one formation. Of course, the allied detachment cannot be the same faction as the primary detachment. <br /><br />There is no difference in what I just wrote and what we are already seeing. It will be interesting if the GW codex writers continue on this path. Minghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497228965588834972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-552664232133558163.post-21097352398934802172015-05-19T05:59:24.986-07:002015-05-19T05:59:24.986-07:00If only it were that simple. But, the rules for Fo...If only it were that simple. But, the rules for Formations state that each one is a detachment in its own right. It's a hard set grouping of units, with less free choice than a CAD. A uni can only exist within one detachment at a time, so you can't take a CAD, and then qualify a formation with those same units. If the formation used the exact same units as the CAD you built, you'd have to take a duplicate of every single unit to qualify for both the CAD and formation. TheRhinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13199708616977903957noreply@blogger.com